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MrShooter01 wrote:

Jack McReady wrote:

Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

Jack McReady wrote:

Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

Hybrid drives decay absurdly fast though.

this is a myth

No?

They're basically HDDs caching loads of stuff on a small SSD for quick reading. They're constantly running through the SSD portion. Firmware has improved to reduce that, sure, but they still decay rather quickly.

thats is only partially true.

the short life expectancy really only applies to the old first generation. I have been torturing SSDs on 24/7 on a linux server and with Windows as system drive. they barely have any space to perform TRIM and they are working fine for years. the same will be true for the flash memory of hybrids, they will last for years. chances are any drive will anyway die after 5 years, regardless if it is a SSD or not.

beside that, the physical part of hybrid drive almost fully saturates the SATAI port and the flash memory is not just excessively written/read. frequently used files are cached there.

FUN FACT:
The often quoted fact that "SSDs will wear out and be unable to write data after a certain point!" causing everyone to worry about limiting the amount of data they write to their precious SSDs is 100% technically true

However it is taken out of context by everyone, just like that ages old "NASA study" about how the average human needs "8 glasses of water a day"... with no context of how big a "glass" is, or the fact that the urban legend study was factoring in the significant amounts of moisture already present in the food you're supposed to be eating, and suddenly my grade school teacher was trying to force-feed me water "for my health" and then couldn't figure out why everyone in class needed to go to the bathroom all the time I'M ****ING HYDRATED ENOUGH MR SMITH I DON'T NEED A WATER BOTTLE

...uh. Sorry about that.

Anyways, a SSD technically will stop working, but when you stop and think about it, its going to stop working LONG after a traditional hard drive breaks from a mechanical failure, or more to the point, LONG, LONG after you voluntarily replace it with a faster, larger capacity SSD with even more longevity that you bought for a third of the price of your original SSD on sale a few years later

For some fun reading, some guy who was doubtlessly Amarrian deep in his cold, black heart, ran a "SSD endurance program" where he tortured some commercial SSDs with constant, unending, 24/7 data writes for months on end. For science.

Many of them survived over one PETABYTE of writes. For reference, most normal users, yes, even you guy who downloaded a dozen ~20 gigabyte games this month you have no intention of actually playing or finishing, write a few terabytes, one thousandth of a petabyte, a year.

TL:DR don't stress over the lifespan of an SSD you're gonna buy because unless you're using it as the keystone of a million user server, planning on taking it with you into a nuclear apocalypse, or passing it on to your grandchildren, its probably gonna outlast you


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deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.10.27 17:22:00 - [1] - Quote Hundred x Eyes wrote: Going to buy one this week. Not just for dist but for other games I play. Mainly ff14. What do specs have to be? Main question is what is the best efficient rpm? SOLID STATE DRIVES do not have RPMs. That is why they are so much better. As for specs do not worry about it as any mid level SSD will max the sata I port on the ps3. Just go with the cheapest one of the size that you want and you will be fine.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.10.27 22:16:00 - [2] - Quote Hundred x Eyes wrote: Ok just just go into to best buy and ask for a cheap 2.5 ssd and I'm good? Yes that is exactly what to go for. You will probably end up with like a PNY or kingston 128gb which are both perfect for what you are doing. Are you familiar with the USB requirements for your different install options? Must be FAT32 formatted 5gb for PUP install only. Much larger if you want to do full backup and restore.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.10.27 22:48:00 - [3] - Quote MrShooter01 wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Hybrid drives decay absurdly fast though. this is a myth No? They're basically HDDs caching loads of stuff on a small SSD for quick reading. They're constantly running through the SSD portion. Firmware has improved to reduce that, sure, but they still decay rather quickly. thats is only partially true. the short life expectancy really only applies to the old first generation. I have been torturing SSDs on 24/7 on a linux server and with Windows as system drive. they barely have any space to perform TRIM and they are working fine for years. the same will be true for the flash memory of hybrids, they will last for years. chances are any drive will anyway die after 5 years, regardless if it is a SSD or not. beside that, the physical part of hybrid drive almost fully saturates the SATAI port and the flash memory is not just excessively written/read. frequently used files are cached there. FUN FACT: The often quoted fact that "SSDs will wear out and be unable to write data after a certain point!" causing everyone to worry about limiting the amount of data they write to their precious SSDs is 100% technically true However it is taken out of context by everyone, just like that ages old "NASA study" about how the average human needs "8 glasses of water a day"... with no context of how big a "glass" is, or the fact that the urban legend study was factoring in the significant amounts of moisture already present in the food you're supposed to be eating, and suddenly my grade school teacher was trying to force-feed me water "for my health" and then couldn't figure out why everyone in class needed to go to the bathroom all the time I'M **ING HYDRATED ENOUGH MR SMITH I DON'T NEED A WATER BOTTLE ...uh. Sorry about that. Anyways, a SSD technically will stop working, but when you stop and think about it, its going to stop working LONG after a traditional hard drive breaks from a mechanical failure, or more to the point, LONG, LONG after you voluntarily replace it with a faster, larger capacity SSD with even more longevity that you bought for a third of the price of your original SSD on sale a few years later For some fun reading, some guy who was doubtlessly Amarrian deep in his cold, black heart, ran a "SSD endurance program" where he tortured some commercial SSDs with constant, unending, 24/7 data writes for months on end. For science. Many of them survived over one PETABYTE of writes*. For reference, most normal users, yes, even you* guy who downloaded a dozen ~20 gigabyte games this month you have no intention of actually playing or finishing, write a few terabytes, one thousandth of a petabyte, a year. TL:DR don't stress over the lifespan of an SSD you're gonna buy because unless you're using it as the keystone of a million user server, planning on taking it with you into a nuclear apocalypse, or passing it on to your grandchildren, its probably gonna outlast you That was an amazing read. I am sooooo happy now that I went with 840 pros when I changed all of my systems over. 2 petabytes is an absolute monumental achievement when you are talking about a 128 or 256 gig drive.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.10.28 18:29:00 - [4] - Quote Hundred x Eyes wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Hundred x Eyes wrote: Ok just just go into to best buy and ask for a cheap 2.5 ssd and I'm good? Yes that is exactly what to go for. You will probably end up with like a PNY or kingston 128gb which are both perfect for what you are doing. Are you familiar with the USB requirements for your different install options? Must be FAT32 formatted 5gb for PUP install only. Much larger if you want to do full backup and restore. No clue man guide me. All I want to do is install the OS for ps3. I'm not trying to transfer anything You will need a USB memory stick but remember that it MUST be fat32 format for the ps3 to read it. You can easily reformat any thumb drive on your PC. Google or youtube for directions specific to your OS. Once you have that you can use the link above posted by Aramis to grab the PS3 OS. That link also includes the basic instructions. Occasionally the download will bug and you will need to rename the pup file manually to get the PS3 to read it but I believe that was fixed when they published the last update.